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Pridružen/a: pet kol 26, 2011 11:41 pm
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Ili zemes Heimdallr za 170$.

Hebem te u kontekst povijesti, nit je ovo 6105 nit si u Vijetnamu.

Cekam samo Pogue reissue , pa da ide za 10 k eura.

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trapgio je napisao/la:
Koliko 6R15 ima rezervu?


50h, imao sam dva sata sa 6R15D, u toj D verziji su kakti napravili najveci pomak po pitanju tocnosti, sjecam se da mi je Sumo bio odlican sto se toga tice, SARX iskreno nisam ni pratio.

Znaci nema nis sluzbeno oko tog monstera, sve forum predvidjanja?


pet ožu 22, 2019 5:28 pm
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Pridružen/a: pon ožu 26, 2012 11:41 am
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Da se uključim na Jadranov rant, Seiko je odavno ne nudi kvalitet za tražene pare. Sa tendecijom većeg fušeraja u high end klasi.

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pet ožu 22, 2019 8:10 pm
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Pridružen/a: čet tra 11, 2013 12:25 am
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Jadro je napisao/la:
Ovaj "Junior Willard" SLA033 kostati ce 4.250 USD
Nevjerujem...



4350€ u EU.


pet ožu 22, 2019 8:12 pm
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Pridružen/a: pet pro 23, 2016 7:51 am
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cutlass je napisao/la:
Jadro je napisao/la:
Ovaj "Junior Willard" SLA033 kostati ce 4.250 USD
Nevjerujem...



4350€ u EU.


Jel na putu već? :D


pet ožu 22, 2019 8:27 pm
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Pridružen/a: pet ruj 09, 2016 3:00 am
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Evo vidim da je američki topper jeweler stavio za preorder Grand Seiko sbga43 limited edition Spring Drive. Pošto sutra idem za Las Vegas a posjetiću i Kaliforniju, San Francisco na par dana a oni su tu blizu, djavo mi u glavi govori da im ponudim Sub 16610 date plus nadoplatu ili lijevi bubreg za ovo:

SPECIFICATIONS
Exterior
Glass Material : Dual-curved sapphire
Glass Coating : Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Lumi Brite : Lumibrite on hands, indexs and bezel
Case size : Diameter 44.5mm × Thickness 14.3mm
Clasp type : Three-fold clasp with secure lock & push button release, solid & slide adjuster
Movement
Caliber no. : 9R15 Instructions
Movement Type : Spring Drive
Power reserve : Approx. 72 hours(3 days)
Accuracy : ±0.5 second per day (±10 seconds per month)
Functions
Water resistance : 20 bar
Magnetic resistance : Equipped
Other details / Features :
・30 jewels
・LIMITED EDITION on the case back
・Power reserve display
・Screw case back
・Screw-down crown
・See-through case back
・Serial number engraved on the case back
・Stop second hand function

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pet ožu 22, 2019 8:41 pm
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Pridružen/a: ned lip 13, 2010 8:29 am
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Mogu se u Vegasu pare shebat na zabavniji nacin :dance3


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Pridružen/a: pet ruj 09, 2016 3:00 am
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Ma mogu ali već sam skinuo par dilera dole kao Torneau jewelers i ovaj Toppers isto tako pa uzmem slike satova. Što se tiče američkih kasina imam averziju prema njima sa metuzalemima na slot mašinama doduše to je malo više napucano dole. Da ne skrećem sa teme, dobar ovaj GS. Traže 10k i tisućak za preorder.

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pet ožu 22, 2019 9:18 pm
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Pridružen/a: čet lis 20, 2016 11:33 am
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Pepermint31 je napisao/la:
Ma mogu ali već sam skinuo par dilera dole kao Torneau jewelers i ovaj Toppers isto tako pa uzmem slike satova. Što se tiče američkih kasina imam averziju prema njima sa metuzalemima na slot mašinama doduše to je malo više napucano dole. Da ne skrećem sa teme, dobar ovaj GS. Traže 10k i tisućak za preorder.


Dobar ali ogroman...


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pet ožu 22, 2019 9:32 pm
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Pridružen/a: čet tra 11, 2013 12:25 am
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hzanic je napisao/la:
cutlass je napisao/la:
Jadro je napisao/la:
Ovaj "Junior Willard" SLA033 kostati ce 4.250 USD
Nevjerujem...



4350€ u EU.


Jel na putu već? :D


Kakvo amatersko pitanje :kava


pet ožu 22, 2019 11:12 pm
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Pridružen/a: pon pro 29, 2014 2:09 pm
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Matori opet briljira :notworthy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYQ7kj5mVww

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Pridružen/a: sub kol 11, 2012 11:00 pm
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nije los novi monster...svidja mi se celicna narukvica. jedino mi je kiklop odvratan, ko i na svakom satu.


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Pridružen/a: sri srp 08, 2009 8:05 pm
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Prošla je već polovica sajma stoga i vrlo vjerojatno nećemo više vidjeti nekih pretjeranih novosti. Znalo se da će ovo biti najlošija godina (barem u ne tako dalekoj prošlosti) sajma jer je broj izlagača pao sa nekih 2200 na cca 550. Swatch grupa sa svojih cca 12 brandova je poprilično bacila Basel u korak natrag, ali čak i da to izuzmemo van, čisto broj satova i novih modela je strmoglavo pao, kao da se nisu niti trudili izbaciti nešto specijalno van jer svi više manje pakiraju kofere (Breitling je već najavio da ga nema sljedeće godine, Rolex i Patek još nisu ništa produžili).
Uglavnom, svi su dosta iznenađeni sa Rolexom, odnosno razočarani "novim" modelima.
Rolex je bio tipičan Rolex, jer kada se malo pogleda u zadnjih 15 godina, nikada nisu izbacili nešto ekstravagantno van (SkyDweller iz 2017 im je bila možda i najveća inovacija u pola stoljeća). Više manje su uvijek radili na upgradeu svojih modela. Malo zlatnih markera, malo bojice, podebljaj kućišta i voila ... novi model!
Rolex nikada nije bio 'hot' kao sada i zašto to ne iskoristiti? Za praktički najmanji mogući ulog (inovacija im je 2mm veće kućište na Yachtmasteru) sklepali su novi "upgrade" i ponovno stvorili potražnju za svojim sportskim modelima. Nisu išli u neke ekstreme poput novih bojica ili stanjivanja kućišta jer nema smisla raditi nove liste kod AD-a za satove koje ne žele isporučiti. Tako da, kudos na potezu.
Tudor isto ušao u priču vrlo rezervirano, svi su očekivali da će raditi re-issue Submarinera ali to se nažalost neće nikada dogoditi. Žele se odmaknuti od Rolex branda kao "poor Man's Rolex" a napraviti re-issue modela koji je nosio Rolex krunu na svojim kućištima ne bi bio pravi potez za to. Očekivao sam nekakav mat dial sa trokut markerima u Black Bay kućištu, to bi već bilo izvedivo.
Uglavnom, vrlo iznenađen sa Breitlingom, 806 Navi mi je možda i najjača vura sajma, ali čisto broj modela koji su izbacili naspram ostalih je impresivan.

Uglavnom, pratio sam dosta izvještaja od ljudi koji su izvorno upućivali na probleme sa sajmom. Umjesto paviljona na kojima su bili brandovi Swatch grupe su otvorili restorane (sa kobasicama od 30 chf) - navodno su zjapili prazni (slična situacija po hodnicima između paviljona), cijene hotela nisu pale niti euro, wifi je nepostojeći u većini paviljona (to mogu i sam potvrditi) ... uglavnom ne piše se dobro za Basel.
A šteta, ove godine je bilo 50 godišnjica od predstavljanja prvog automatic chronographa, pa su mogli napraviti nešto specijalno na temu toga.

Uglavnom, čeka se Swatch-ov "Time to move on" privatni event pa da vidimo jel bude kaj od tog 321 ili ... :victorious

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Pridružen/a: čet ožu 22, 2012 8:42 am
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Nono sve ok, ali reći da je Tudor išao rezervirano baš ne drži vodu. Ako nešto nije, nije išao rezervirano.


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Pridružen/a: sri srp 08, 2009 8:05 pm
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Neću komentirati P01 dok ga ne vidim uživo. Mimo njega, išao je ziheraškom metodom kao i Rolex jer praktički nisu predstavili ništa novo, samo update postojeće linije već aktualnih modela. Nema potrebe u tim linijama nešto pretjerano filozofirati jer 58, BB i GMT očito idu poprilično ok.
P01 je, barem koliko mi se čini, project vura. Ne misle oni to prodavati u desetinama tisuća komada, to je doslovno dizajnerski tim pušten s lanca (jer Rolex to ne smije) da napravi nešto o čemu će svi pisati. I zasada im je plan poprilično dobro uspio. Brand awareness!

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Pridružen/a: čet stu 12, 2009 1:08 pm
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Kakav dizajnerski tim pušten s lanca? Reciklirali su 50 godina star dizajn.
Nije da su se baš naradili dizajneri.

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Pridružen/a: čet ožu 22, 2012 8:42 am
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U redu, ali svaka im čast na tome. Sve si rekao, dizajnerski tim pušten sa lanca se ne može opisati kao nešto rezervirano, iako se radi samo o jednom satu u asortimanu. Mislim da će se tebi kao roniocu taj svidjeti.


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Pridružen/a: sri stu 03, 2010 1:07 pm
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A ovo ? :facepalm

Procitati. Ne zvuci zabavno.


Beware: Swiss Customs Targeting Baselworld 2019 Attendees


https://www.fratellowatches.com/beware- ... attendees/

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Here at Fratello, and once again this year during Baselworld 2019, we tend to stay over the border in either Germany or France. The costly, hotel rooms in Basel along with pricey restaurants often lead us to roomier and more modern lodging across the border. That leads to a somewhat annoying train ride in every morning and a corresponding commute back each night from the show. But, it’s part of the gig and it usually runs smoothly. After 5+ years of attending the show, though, I had an incredibly painful run in with Swiss Customs. Here’s my tale…hopefully my experience will help you avoid the same.

If you’re at all familiar with commuting into Basel from Germany, you may be aware that most trains lead into Badischer Bahnhof. It’s an older train station that was, amongst other things, known to us as the site of the annual Nomos dinner each Wednesday during Baselworld. For me, though, it will forever be known as the site of a stop by Swiss Customs where I later handed over about $4,000.


I commuted into Baselworld 2019 on my 10 minute train and walked off the track, down the stairs into the hallway. One crosses through some pillars and that’s the official border into Switzerland. This past Thursday at around 9am, there happened to be a young border “Zoll” guard standing there. He approached and asked where I was headed and I mentioned, “Baselworld”. He asked if I had anything to declare and I said “no”. He then asked if I had any commercial goods worth above 300 Swiss Francs and, again, “no”. He then asked what I had in my bag and I mentioned my laptop, my camera and my personal watches. Upon the mention of watches, his eyes lit up and I was asked to come in for a bag inspection. When my five vintage watches were seen, 3 1/2 hours of waiting, a transfer via van, questioning, paperwork, and a huge payment ensued to Swiss Customs.

Now, one thing I should say is that no one was ever rude to me. They were simply uninterested in explanations and looking to make an example. It even felt that there was a bit of enthusiasm in the process. Essentially, because I was carrying more than one watch, failed to voluntarily declare them, then stated that I didn’t have “commercial” goods worth more than 300 CHF, I was later due to pay a fine of 1500 CHF and 7.7% VAT for the value of my watches. When I explained that I was a watch enthusiast and that I was carrying vintage pieces – a couple Breiltings to bring to a Breitling dinner and to photograph next to the new 1959 Navitimer Re-Edition – they simply could not fathom why I would bring watches to such an event. It was as if a huge watch-related event wasn’t occurring 300 meters away (perhaps Baselworld hasn’t been a mob scene this year, but it wasn’t that quiet) and seemingly odd that so many of us were coming in to support the country’s major industry aside from banking.

Ah, but there was more with Swiss Customs. I happened to be carrying a rather inexpensive Heuer stopwatch to show a friend that was, unfortunately, from the 1940’s and contained an insignia from a certain part of the German military during World War 2. This only escalated the situation. All kinds of “regeln” or rules about what to do with propaganda materials and right wing paraphernalia were printed out. Strangely, none of this was ever brought up. No, Swiss Customs was in fact pretty excited because they thought this was a very expensive piece and felt I was being dishonest about its value. They were convinced that this piece with a dubious history was invaluable and they spent a lot of time trying to research it to prove this. Later, when I was finally able to show a price paid of roughly 1,100 Euros a few weeks before, it was almost a buzz kill.

After an hour or more at the Bahnhof with Swiss Customs, they drove me in a van – I wasn’t in cuffs – a few minutes away to the customs office at the “Messe” or convention center next to Baselworld 2019. It was here that I was told the staff was familiar with watches and would be able to assess fair value in order to charge me my 7.7% and process the additional 1500 CHF payment. I sat in a room with a small round table in the kitchen area of the office while they started to pull together paperwork. I was asked to write down when I bought my watches, how much I paid and what they were worth now. I was fair with the values and ultimately, Swiss Customs agreed with all my values. Intriguingly, I watched them scroll through Google trying to look up 50-60 year old watches to ascertain current market prices. I saw all kinds of things come up during the search – modern watches – and perhaps they weren’t so familiar with older, personal goods. In the end, roughly 3,000 CHF was assessed as a VAT due on my five watches and the stopwatch.

If you’re interested, Swiss Customs happily accepts Master Card or cash – although I am sure carrying that kind of money around would’ve caused all sorts of additional suspicion. I asked how I could claim my VAT back upon leaving the country and things became even more interesting. First, I’d need to go online and fill out a form stating that I wished to export my watches out of Switzerland – typing in all the info on the VAT form that declared the importation of my goods – and getting a system generated code to use at a later time. And then, because my goods were classified as commercial, I could happily bring my car over from Germany along the autobahn. On the way in, I’d need to once again stop at Swiss Customs to show them my newly declared goods (with hand scribbled descriptions of my watches included – I can only imagine the hours of waiting and then having another agent trying to decide if the five described watches were the ones that I was actually bringing in), then pull a U-turn and get into line between all the huge trucks waiting to leave Switzerland and export their goods. (This office is “conveniently” open from 8-11:30am and then from 1:30-5:00pm M-F.) I’d go into Swiss Customs, reference my export code, and perhaps show them the watches yet again in order to officially take them out of Switzerland for good. Would my 7.7% then be returned to my bank account? Surely you jest. I’d then need to write a letter to Swiss Customs explaining my situation and perhaps they’d see it fit to return my 3,000. But there’s more…

After leaving Swiss Customs in my car, I’d need to drive past German Customs and there’s a 99% they’d stop me after seeing me come out of the Swiss offices. And why is that? Because Germany would be interested in their 19% to bring my watches back into the country. Now, I happen to live in and pay taxes in Germany and perhaps a customs officer there would be a bit more understanding, but… So, the Swiss haven’t exactly made it easy for me to regain my money.

Regarding some other things that I learned from Swiss Customs… Firstly, you should always declare everything. So, whether you’re headed to Baselworld or headed to a watch get together, you should stop in and declare your watches. Yes, you should go in and let Switzerland know that your Grandfather’s watch is coming in. If they don’t decide to charge you VAT – which is a possibility – a “deposit” could be charged. How, when and how long to get that back was a mystery that I failed to decode. It all just seemed rather arbitrary. I asked about my camera and if it needed to be declared. I was told taking pictures is ok, but if you’re there to make money with pictures, you should declare. And finally, when I mentioned that just about every journalist I knew carried in multiple watches because we don’t like leaving them in a hotel or AirBNB, attend enthusiast dinners, and enjoy showing each other our watches, I was simply told “yes, and we control this and you simply got caught.” That was comforting.

If you think my story of being questioned by Swiss Customs is an isolated case, think again. We were stopped the following day by the same office and I saw another soul being questioned yet again two days later. One of our team members came into a different station and when he got off the train, a Swiss Customs officer asked him “are you going to Baselworld” he said yes. The officer pulled him to the side and went through his bag, stopping to look through a small box with Omega gloves inside to ensure no watches existed. I then spoke to a member of the Hodinkee team who was approached upon landing and he was asked the same. When I told my story, people – Swiss friends included – were surprised that Swiss Customs chose to do this with me; they all asked the same thing “how could they do this with your personal property?” Well, it seems they can.

At the end of day, I’ve essentially decided that over $4,000 is gone. I’ll never bring more than the watch that’s on my wrist into Switzerland again and I’d suggest you consider the same unless you work through a process of pre-registering your goods or wish to enjoy what seems to be an unpredictable outcome with Swiss Customs. Now, I am sure that a customs official would read this and tell me that I was in the wrong and that there are very clear rules. Perhaps they’re right, but I’d disagree on the latter as I certainly know those who were checked and let off. In the end, it was a long and humiliating process that left a real bitter taste in my mouth that I’ll forever associate with Switzerland and Baselworld. Consider yourself warned…

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Pridružen/a: čet stu 12, 2009 1:08 pm
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Nema labavo sa Švicarcima :D

A nekako mi djeluje da je bio nepristojan prema onom prvom cariniku pa su ga zato naguzili.

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Nu dera... a ja mislio da smo samo mi zaj***ni...


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